{"id":378,"date":"2005-09-30T13:47:48","date_gmt":"2005-09-30T05:47:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nargalzius.com\/blog2\/http:\/www.nargalzius.com\/blog2\/archives\/2005\/09\/2005_09_30_1347.php"},"modified":"2005-09-30T13:47:48","modified_gmt":"2005-09-30T05:47:48","slug":"where-to-draw-the-line","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nargalzius.com\/blog\/archives\/2005\/09\/30\/where-to-draw-the-line","title":{"rendered":"Where to draw the line?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Something I realized about the whole &#8220;sportsmanship&#8221; issue in the UAAP with regards to La Salle: We&#8217;re really unlucky to end up gathering the ire of almost every school&#8230; <em>especially<\/em> ADMU by our recent gestures.<\/p>\n<p>I say <em>unlucky<\/em> because if it was a different situation, having an &#8220;aggressive mental game,&#8221; for lack of a better phrase, would probably be perfectly fine&#8230; for any team.<\/p>\n<p>Now since I&#8217;m sure the ADMU people are first to react to this&#8230; let me qualify:<\/p>\n<p>With regards to the ADMU-DLSU game, while I have no problems with trash-talking and what not&#8230; I believe that what DLSU did was in poor taste &#8211; simply because they were dominating ADMU. If the competition had been fiercer or &#8220;matched,&#8221; if you&#8217;ll allow me to say that &#8211; I doubt <em>anyone<\/em> from <em>any side<\/em> would&#8217;ve minded <em>any type taunt<\/em> to anyone during the game.<\/p>\n<p>So let me state <em>now palang,<\/em> that as far as ADMU was concerned, La Salle did a shameful act as a team (the whole jiggy, time-outs, etc. etc.) by &#8220;kicking someone who was already down.&#8221; That&#8217;s why I admire the Blue Eagles in the last games against DLSU. Because although they weren&#8217;t the <em>better<\/em> team, they definitely were the <strong>bigger<\/strong> one.<\/p>\n<!--more-->\n<p>Now why did this angle prompt me to further comment on the DLSU-FEU game? It was because as far as taunting pala was concerned, FEU drew first blood&#8230; at least from what I&#8217;ve heard.<\/p>\n<p>Again, before FEU people react (but who am I kidding, it&#8217;s the Eagles that are really enjoying this field day of slamming our reputations hehehe), let me qualify once more:<\/p>\n<p>The <em>batok<\/em> done by idiot team manager was inexcusable. And for all its worth, the DLSU community is in an <a href=\"http:\/\/greenarcher.yehey.com\/forums\/showthread.php?t=13544\" title=\"view forums\">uproar against its own<\/a> because of it.<\/p>\n<p>What has to be remembered however, is that they are only regretting the said end game action. Not whatever <em>in-game<\/em> taunting that was going on on either side. Because I think everyone realizes it&#8217;s part of the game. At least as far as DLSU and FEU are concerned.<\/p>\n<p>Strictly speaking, Santos was reportedly the person who initiated all the taunting. Remember how Cabatug was warned? He was magnifying what Santos&#8217; did to Ara\u00f1a (to a lesser degree of course) earlier. Right after Casio missed the final 3-pointer, he went to Yeo and started trash talking some more&#8230; which we then segue to Yeo&#8217;s image on TV talking to him from behind while smiling.<\/p>\n<p>We all know that it wasn&#8217;t to congratulate him. I&#8217;m thinking it was more like a <em>&#8220;don&#8217;t celebrate yet, I&#8217;m gonna get you the next game.&#8221;<\/em> quip from Yeo. And as much as I&#8217;m sure that people hate (or like) that attitude, personally I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with it. Same way I don&#8217;t mind Santos shoving the painful truth against the Archers faces through harsh words when the final buzzer sounded.<\/p>\n<p>We all know that even in the NBA this type of mental game is frowned upon&#8230; but let&#8217;s face it, it&#8217;s there to stay. Wether in the Philippines or whatever part of the world. And honestly, It&#8217;s even fun if both teams do it. It&#8217;s not the same, of course, if only one side is doing it (like with ADMU-DLSU)&#8230; siguro if Wesley Gonzales was still there, it would&#8217;ve been fun to watch the two teams heat each other up hahahahaa.<\/p>\n<p>Personally, despite the fact that Santos started all the taunting, I don&#8217;t mind. Because he has earned every right to talk the players down in such a manner. Aside from it being a natural occurrence in basketball games, he&#8217;s been waiting a whole season to get back at DLSU for beating them. And he did single-handedly ensure FEU&#8217;s win that day. So he can trash talk all he wants IMHO, he deserves the satisfaction of talking his rivals down.<\/p>\n<p>But what Salgado did was totally uncalled for. One cannot justify such actions no matter how you look at it. That wasn&#8217;t a mental strategy, that was a cheap shot plain and simple, and has no place in the UAAP.<\/p>\n<p>So what is the point of my post? Basically to just clarify that everybody, <em>especially the Eagles<\/em>, to try to focus on the stuff that really matters. The link to the forum shows posts from very concerned La Sallians who see the melee attack as a very unfortunate turnout to an otherwise beautiful game. The posts that encapsulates this concern goes something like:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>grabe nga..<\/p>\n<p>kawawang kawawa na tau sa atenista.net..<\/p>\n<p>ang masakit pa nyan e wala talagang kaclass class yung nangyari. mapapamura ka talaga.<\/p>\n<p>hindi rin talaga maiiwasan na idamay buong community sa nangyari.<\/p>\n<p>tinatanong na nung mga tao dun kung yun daw ba tinuturo satin.<\/p>\n<p>sabay banggit sa &#8220;jiggy&#8221; chaka sa &#8220;pogi pose&#8221;&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>hay&#8230;.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Or<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>sadly, we can no longer use words such as &#8220;Glory in defeat&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>now practically every student of every school just rose from the dead like zombies and has found another source for their thirst of green blood.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>But the most promising post I saw would be this:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8230; I also want to beat Arwind. But on the court, and in the game of basketball. Not like this, not after the game and not with a cheap shot.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s a proper time and place for most things; an attack like that has no place in UAAP basketball.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>If there&#8217;s one thing I have to be proud of, is that we can admit our mistakes (or at least now we do, kapal naman namin kung dineny pa namin to hahahaha) \ud83d\ude09 I&#8217;ve run into really hard headed people from other schools who find ways <em>to this day<\/em> to defend their &#8220;perspectives,&#8221; and it amuses me&#8230; we may try to defend ourselves once in a while, but we know a foul when we see one, which is a major reason why I&#8217;m still proud to be an Archer.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s to a great emotionally charged game 2 (and hopefully game 3)<\/p>\n<p>I must admit though that I&#8217;m usually interested in the UAAP when it&#8217;s a DLSU-Ateneo match, and we all know that it&#8217;s simply because of the rivalry, not the game per se (though it does matter too) &#8211; as long as they get-it-on, then I&#8217;m happy!<\/p>\n<p>But watching DLSU-FEU really turns out to be really good too. Because though the schools aren&#8217;t arch-rivals, we get to see the &#8220;basketball element&#8221; in the games. Both teams really are so friggin&#8217; good, that whoever wins in the end I really don&#8217;t mind that much. They both deserve to win&#8230; yes even DLSU. Despite the bad rep we&#8217;ve been getting these days&#8230; doesn&#8217;t take away the fact that we have an excellent basketball team.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Something I realized about the whole &#8220;sportsmanship&#8221; issue in the UAAP with regards to La Salle: We&#8217;re really unlucky to end up gathering the ire of almost every school&#8230; especially ADMU by our recent gestures. I say unlucky because if it was a different situation, having an &#8220;aggressive mental game,&#8221; for lack of a better &hellip; <p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/nargalzius.com\/blog\/archives\/2005\/09\/30\/where-to-draw-the-line\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Where to draw the line?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p><\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[4],"tags":[106,346,1223],"class_list":["post-378","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general","tag-ateneo","tag-dlsu","tag-uaap"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/nargalzius.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/378","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/nargalzius.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/nargalzius.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nargalzius.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nargalzius.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=378"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/nargalzius.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/378\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/nargalzius.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=378"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nargalzius.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=378"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nargalzius.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=378"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}